Item 119: Hidden discord: a region-level convergence measure
Deference line — second wave · difficulty open · project normativity.seed · open · node item-119
*Re-filed 2026-10-21 by the rebuttal-and-end-to-end round from branch round/2026-09-17-convergence-measure, where it was item 95; content unchanged; the branch round is landed under projects/normativity/seed/rounds/2026-09-17-convergence-measure/.*
The convergence-measure round (projects/normativity/seed/rounds/2026-09-17-convergence-measure/) shows that the coordinate-wise profile (Hull, Ovl, Disc) on a declared fragment can report Disc = 0 while the merged bundle is infeasible — two humble reasoners holding y ≥ (9/10)x, x ≥ (9/10)y and x ≥ 4/5, y ≤ 3/10, and three reasoners pairwise compatible and jointly not (hidden_discord). Helly in dimension one makes coordinate discord pairwise (discord_iff_pair); nothing makes merged feasibility so. No declaration of fragment or weights blocks this. Define a region-level component of the profile — a merged-feasibility mass, or a relational discord over declared pairs of sentences, or the affine dimension of the merged region — that sees relational incompatibility, prove its monotonicity under nesting, and give its certificate.
Deliverable shape: the definition on IntervalData or on regions, the analogue of discord_persists, and the two hidden-discord fixtures scored positive by it. Acceptance check: python3 tests/run.py green; the Lean audits clean.
Context: MANY.md §2 and GAMEABILITY.md (what is not blocked) of the round. Consumed by: any use of Disc = 0 as "the reasoners could jointly hold their bundles". A solution ships: the component, its monotonicity theorem, and the fixtures.
Deliverable shape: the definition on IntervalData or on regions, the analogue of discord_persists, and the two hidden-discord fixtures scored positive by it.
Acceptance check: python3 tests/run.py green; the Lean audits clean.
Registered results bearing on this item
- convergence.discord-pairwise: The common interval is empty iff some pair of reasoners has disjoint intervals; merged infeasibility is not pairwise, which is item 119.
- convergence.discord-persists: Once the common interval is empty no narrowing restores it; only reopening can.
- convergence.hull-mass-anti: Settlement, shared narrowing and private narrowing lower the hull mass under nonnegative weights.
Where it hangs
- held by seed-theory