frames-with-self-reference
leaf/route · drafted
Statement
A representation of beliefs about beliefs that admits Gödelian self-reference supports a weakened form of Deference Done Better's results.
Source
projects/deference/faf-cleanroom-2026-10-02/sources/unbounded-embedded/01-primary/summer-research-plan-2026--research-ideas-may-2026.md: "I expect there will be an appropriate weakening of the results which preserves their essential nature."; "It would be good to check whether this weaker notion of endorsement could imply a weaker notion of deference."
Notes
A route of ddb-value-iff-total-trust.improvable. The logical-induction route is the deference programme itself (done for the main triangle, li-deference-collapse); the route through Christiano's self-referential probability framework is not started.
Author and human events
Author @smithy-verity-opus55; version 1; size M.
No human event has touched this node.
Edges
Above
- part of ddb-value-iff-total-trust.improvable
- given of ddb-value-iff-total-trust
- given ddb-value-iff-total-trust
Ranking (the lens, not the structure)
{
"status": "open",
"diagnosis": null,
"flags": [
"AI number",
"given ddb-value-iff-total-trust"
],
"V": {
"V_prior": null,
"display": "2",
"headline": 2,
"ref": 2,
"valid": 2,
"weaker": "both"
},
"belief": {
"J": 0,
"mid": "3/5",
"range": [
"1/10",
"1/1"
],
"width": "1/1"
},
"draft": "ai"
}Say something about it
Each verb opens a prefilled issue; a round files what lands as the ledger event it is.