geometric-udt-construction
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Statement
Geometric UDT selects an updateless policy as a Nash bargaining solution between value hypotheses with an updateful policy as the disagreement point, so that an agent uncertain about human values does no worse for any hypothesis than an updateful learner would, for a broad class of hypotheses.
Source
The maintainer's post Geometric UDT (https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/Gmaq7vMj9NWLyQkEx/geometric-udt). projects/deference/faf-cleanroom-2026-10-02/packages/udt-endorse-policy/udt-endorse-policy-report.md: geometric_udt_identity, the finite identity.
Notes
The published construction, stated with its 'broad class' clause. Where some hypotheses are exact negatives of others, one gains exactly what the other loses, so the product of gains from trade gives no usable optimum; this is a candidate obstruction to the clause, and the stratified-Pareto route a candidate repair.
Author and human events
Author @smithy-verity; version 1; size M.
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Edges
Above
- part of updateless-dt-programme
- root (shared-claim) of updateless-dt-programme
Ranking (the lens, not the structure)
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