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rs-undetectable-manipulation-selected

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Statement

A legitimacy detector learned from retractions discounts only the manipulations the overseers catch, so learning selects for manipulations that are never caught.

Source

The BLI thread (projects/deference/faf-cleanroom-2026-10-02/sources/corrigibility/imported-chats/2026-09-14__bli-thread-conditioning-vs-prior-overrides__claude-ai-paste.md: the argument that the learnable part of legitimacy selects for undetectable manipulation); projects/deference/corrigibility-note-dump-2026-10-01/corrigibility-bli-thread-and-early-questions-audit.md, row 2.14.

Notes

Threatens: the legitimacy-detection claim and the power-bounded-by-wisdom condition (the wisdom meter). Its given parent is the unlearnable-constraint question: a fixed causal constraint covers the self-caused pushes a learned detector would miss. A risk story the corrigibility work itself produced: it shows a probability and a status and enters the comparison through the plans whose tables cite it. No outcome class is tagged (tagging a failure class is a human judgment under the protocol's rule on classes), so its failure mass goes to the default trajectory until a human tags it.

A root of corrigibility-landscape, the sub-frame whose plans it threatens; the top frame keeps only stories at the level of its own question.

Author and human events

Author @smithy-verity; version 1; size M.

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