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Statement

When every instance of an agent trusts the others to follow a shared plan, some instance can be a defector who spoils the plan even though all instances share goals and beliefs, so message-based self-modification needs a stability assumption beyond shared goals.

Source

projects/deference/faf-cleanroom-2026-10-02/sources/references/bli/understanding-trust/udt-tiling-working-notes-2025-06-30.md, line 1130 (the maintainer): "However, the Third Button problem discussed in Section 3 shows that this doesn't always work. In some cases, everyone trusting others to follow the plan leads to ``defectors'' who spoil the plan, even in cases where everyone shares the same goals and beliefs!" and line 1132: "Clearly, we need some additional assumptions to rule out such counterexamples."

projects/deference/faf-cleanroom-2026-10-02/packages/udt-paper-tiling/udt-paper-tiling-report.md: CommClone.naive_cloning_refuted, the Lean form.

Notes

Stated by the maintainer in 2025; the clean-room's refutation of single-instance communicative cloning is its Lean form, a result he had already drawn in prose.

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