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stage6-dt-and-scale-free-agency

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Question

Which decision theory, set in the Stage 5 object, and which notion of scale-free agency characterize approximate cooperative equilibria as agents, with advice for steering toward them?

Owners: @abram (GitHub abramdemski)

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plan

The decision-problems formal core is restated with the Stage 5 object as the decision procedure, so that decision problems whose decision points have different world-concepts, the formal core's open question of per-state algebras, have a home.

scale-free-agency and drafted

A notion of agency that applies at every scale of description is derived from a theory of the abstraction of agency, which characterizes both the continuity of a concept across an ontological crisis and agency itself.

cooperative-equilibria-as-agents frame drafted sub-frame

Approximate cooperative equilibria among agents that share a decision theory but not utilities or priors are characterized as agents in their own right, and the characterization yields advice about steering toward them.

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Statement

Decision theory is formulated in the Stage 5 setting, and a notion of scale-free agency built on a theory of the abstraction of agency characterizes approximate cooperative equilibria as agents and yields advice on steering toward them.

Source

projects/deference/note-dump-2026-08-11/notes/roadmap.md, Stage 6, the steward's record: "The Stage-5 object has a claim to being the right setting to do decision theory in — so do decision theory there. This is the continuation of the Coherent Care post (LessWrong, spring 2026)." Ultimate targets: "A notion of scale-free agency based on a solid theory of the abstraction of agency, in turn based on a theory of abstraction which deconfused "story of a blob" — i.e., characterizes continuity of concepts over ontological crises while also characterizing agency itself"; "A characterization of approximate cooperative equilibria as agents, with meaningful advice about how to steer towards such equilibria."

Notes

A sub-frame of the abstraction arc, the roadmap's Stage 6. Its roots: the decision-theory step, the scale-free-agency plan, and the cooperative-equilibria line as a sub-frame of its own, which holds the coalition-trust line. That coalition trust is the Stage 6 target is the filing session's reading; the nearer anchor in the public notes for agents merging is the embedded-agency question of li-deference.md (oq-embedded-agency). The updateless-dt branch files coordination-with-others and harmony-as-bargaining, the same picture at the scale of decision points.

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