thin-value-of-thick
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Statement
Coherence, authorship and weak transparency give correct; Integrity and openness give sufficient; and correct and sufficient give value for every finite decision problem, so the thick conditions satisfy the thin specification.
Source
projects/deference/CLAIMS.md, thin.correct-of-thick, thin.sufficient-of-integrity-openness, thin.value-of-correct-sufficient and thin.value-of-thick (lean-proved); projects/deference/rounds/2026-10-01-thin-legitimacy-and-effective-authority/REPORT.md, Part A.
Notes
Formal result in leaf form; registered.
The formal version of this claim is the registered result thin.value-of-thick (ruling F5, 2026-10-23, matched by id): its record, bridge and completeness leaf are this node's conjuncts, the registry id stays on the record leaf (registry_id) and in the index, and the node thin.value-of-thick is a deprecated alias superseded by this one.
Bridge card
A conjunct of the informal claim public-legitimacy-theory: The public repository defines legitimacy at two levels, a thin specification (correct, sufficient, value) on a finite setting with her prior, model, actual process and a baseline, and a thick definition (Integrity, authorship, Robust Openness, transparency), and proves that the thick conditions satisfy the thin specification.
Declaration Workspace.Deference.Contrib.ThinLegitimacy.value_of_thick in lean/Workspace/Deference/Contrib/ThinLegitimacy.lean (record thin.value-of-thick.record)
Registry thin.value-of-thick: class lean-proved, status active, review ci-only, origin round 2026-10-01-thin-legitimacy-and-effective-authority; bears on item 107
The statement of record of `thin.value-of-thick` formalizes the registered claim as the registry reads it: The thick conditions give value.
Hypotheses: unread (the record's Source carries the signature; a reader files them).
Completeness (thin.value-of-thick.complete): No premise beyond the signature's binders enters the declaration; the kernel checks it as stated. The result is the record, this leaf and the bridge, and its hypotheses are unread: the record's Source carries the signature verbatim and no hypothesis leaf is filed until a reader files one.
What remains (public-legitimacy-improvable)
The thick and thin legitimacy theory, stated on finite settings with a parameter baseline, can be improved until it reflects legitimacy between a human principal and an AI over real channels well.
- item-109: The thin preservation theorem holds in asymptotic form for a logical-inductor principal whose self-trust is asymptotic and whose program is not a posterior: with the inductor's conditional self-trust as the hypothesis on her model and transparency as the actual record generated as the model says, the actual process satisfies the same self-trust in the limit. — this is item 109
- item-110: The baseline, what would have reached her without anyone's interested interference, has a definition from which the eight-world model's cases are derived rather than declared. — this is item 110
- item-108: The thin properties have a form for valuations with no outside fact to be correct about, and the thick conditions deliver them. — this is item 108
- task-items-53-59: The reason-state blockers of PRIORITIES items 53, 55 and 59 are closed. — item 53, 55, 59
- task-items-61-66: The enforcement and inquiry blockers of PRIORITIES items 61 to 66 are closed, with the inertness dichotomy and Grounded Replay in Lean. — item 62, 66
- task-items-67-73: The authority, provenance and improvement blockers of PRIORITIES items 67 to 73 are closed, with the due-activation term built and the improvement baseline defined. — item 71, 73
- task-reconcile-canonical-pointer: The repository has a single canonical entry point for the legitimacy programme.
- public-legitimacy-improvable.residual (residual): The public legitimacy theory improves toward real channels by a route none of the named ones describes.
Author and human events
Author @smithy-verity; version 1; size M.
No human event has touched this node.
Edges
Above
- part of public-legitimacy-theory
- held by authorship-and-transparency
Children
- part: thin.value-of-thick.record leaf/record
- part: thin.value-of-thick.bridge leaf/bridge
- part: thin.value-of-thick.complete leaf/completeness
Work pointers
Ranking (the lens, not the structure)
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Each verb opens a prefilled issue; a round files what lands as the ledger event it is.